Do i have to have that "please" in my rules? The word "please" does not fit in rules. You dont ask your users to apply to rules. They SHALL apply.munky wrote: servers can keep newer (>=3.05) clients off by putting "no bottler clients please" in their motd
channels can keep them out by putting "-bottler" in the topic
bottler!!!
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not entirely sure, i'm just going off what is posted many times in the bottler forumsGozem wrote:Do i have to have that "please" in my rules? The word "please" does not fit in rules. You dont ask your users to apply to rules. They SHALL apply.
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The "-bottler" in the topic NO LONGER works. The public source has been rewritten to ignore the -bottler in the topic. That is what 'BLotter' is, an addon for bottler that gives users more incentive on leeching and filters out the limitations that the Bottler program originally had.
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It's just common courtesy to use polite language. Even if you are the admin of a server that is provided for the users for free, if you are rude, demanding, and obnoxious to your users, they will be the same to you. Remember the golden rule...Gozem wrote: Do i have to have that "please" in my rules? The word "please" does not fit in rules. You dont ask your users to apply to rules. They SHALL apply.
Those who have the gold make the rules?wundr wrote:It's just common courtesy to use polite language. Even if you are the admin of a server that is provided for the users for free, if you are rude, demanding, and obnoxious to your users, they will be the same to you. Remember the golden rule...Gozem wrote: Do i have to have that "please" in my rules? The word "please" does not fit in rules. You dont ask your users to apply to rules. They SHALL apply.
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No. You dont see any please in the lawbook.wundr wrote:It's just common courtesy to use polite language. Even if you are the admin of a server that is provided for the users for free, if you are rude, demanding, and obnoxious to your users, they will be the same to you. Remember the golden rule...Gozem wrote: Do i have to have that "please" in my rules? The word "please" does not fit in rules. You dont ask your users to apply to rules. They SHALL apply.
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For the record, for someone who has been around on EFNet for many years, it would appear that opers and admins seem to have forgotten what brought EFNet success and it's userbase... Now, while I don't recommend or condone it, EFNet was built on a file-trading userbase (I'll stay away from the 'w' word), and now to show its appreciation, many are trying to close the door on that.... If the feelings amongst the higher powers are in agreeance about this, then so be it, but be aware that doing so goes against the foundation of EFNet's success, and may lead to the fall of EFNet, and lead to the rise of other networks.
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i'm just curious why you're so sure thats the reason for efnet's success? i've been around a number of years too, and thats not why most of the people i know are here....strikelight wrote:For the record, for someone who has been around on EFNet for many years, it would appear that opers and admins seem to have forgotten what brought EFNet success and it's userbase... Now, while I don't recommend or condone it, EFNet was built on a file-trading userbase (I'll stay away from the 'w' word), and now to show its appreciation, many are trying to close the door on that.... If the feelings amongst the higher powers are in agreeance about this, then so be it, but be aware that doing so goes against the foundation of EFNet's success, and may lead to the fall of EFNet, and lead to the rise of other networks.
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Sure, you know people on irc that aren't here for the file-swapping aspect of EFNet, that's a given... But the population of EFNet is consumed by a greater number of people than just those that you know.lucy wrote:i'm just curious why you're so sure thats the reason for efnet's success? i've been around a number of years too, and thats not why most of the people i know are here....
When the split happened between the europe servers and the us servers (IRCNet , EFNet) , IRCNet was leading the userbase race for quite a bit,
but file-trading groups based their operations on EFNet, for one reason or another, thus drawing users to EFNet...
While many users were/are drawn to EFNet for this interest, a large
portion of them also engage in actual chat *gasp* as a secondary interest.
But if it weren't for something on EFNet satisfying their primary interest,
they could have achieved that secondary objective on almost any other network.
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