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mIRC rocks...

All you purists just don't understand...
IRC is spposed to be fun and relaxing.. not full of furious un-needed typing!

All clients have their strong points tho...

As long as they get you on irc.. that makes them "L33t" anyway...
afterall...
That's what they are there for.

Auriga wrote:mIRC rocks...

All you purists just don't understand...
IRC is spposed to be fun and relaxing.. not full of furious un-needed typing!

All clients have their strong points tho...

As long as they get you on irc.. that makes them "L33t" anyway...
afterall...
That's what they are there for.

Totally agree with that, use whatever you're comfortable with and suits you're needs.

I use irssi because its fast, clean, and what I like best of all is being able to detach it in a screen session since I'm constantly moving around between systems.

[quote="Auriga"]
IRC is spposed to be fun and relaxing.. not full of furious un-needed typing!
quote]

But you forget that because of the lack of a GUI, the command line of text-based clients is very powerful (think *nix). I can do with one command what might require you to click all over, right click then click again.

(I'm assuming we're talking default client with no script)

example: /user *.no -kill SAY NO TO .NO

You forgot ircN. While using mIRC as a base, it is a lot better.

Ustas wrote:You forgot ircN. While using mIRC as a base, it is a lot better.

I'm one of those scrooges who hates mIRC scripts . When I used to use mIRC I found they made a mess the client, you have to ask yourself "do I really need all these features?", probably not. If I wanted something I found it better to write something quickly myself. Theres also the fact they sometimes have backdoors and often annoy/disturb other users (spamming themselves whenever possible).

qurve wrote:

Auriga wrote: IRC is spposed to be fun and relaxing.. not full of furious un-needed typing!
quote]

But you forget that because of the lack of a GUI, the command line of text-based clients is very powerful (think *nix). I can do with one command what might require you to click all over, right click then click again.

(I'm assuming we're talking default client with no script)

example: /user *.no -kill SAY NO TO .NO

I understand the limitations of the GUI..
I havent found mIRC limiting for what i need it for yet.
Anything I've needed I've scripted, or had someone else (friend) script for me.

Mirc standlone might be limiting, but when you consider that you can add any function you could possibly need... just like all other irc clients...
Why bother with all that unneeded typing?

Just my opinion.

Nothing against command line irc clients..
They just annoy me.. thats all..

I can do everything you can do in a console type client with mIRC, and probably more Of course, mIRC doesn't come stock with all of these features, but what client does? I believe that its scripting engine is very powerful.

Auriga wrote: Why bother with all that unneeded typing?

Just my opinion.

Nothing against command line irc clients..
They just annoy me.. thats all..

This applies to any software application: Mousing is initially easier, but once I've learned the commands (think shortcut keys), or aliased my own, using the keyboard is much faster. Given the option, even when using mirc, I'd rather type a short command plus use the tab feature than right-click here and select this or that.

However, I still prefer console-based clients, mainly because they enable me to screen my irc sessions.

The flaw I find with console (no gui) based irc clients, is that they are too disorganized... Channel messages/private messages all appearing
in the same screen, all after another... Atleast with mirc, they
are organized into seperate containers, making chatting flow easier..

set QUERY_NEW_WINDOW ON
set QUERY_NEW_WINDOW_TYPE new_hide swap last double on
set JOIN_NEW_WINDOW ON
set JOIN_NEW_WINDOW_TYPE new_hide swap last double on

you can also create a window and set it so all msgs (or all server msgs) go to that window (/window level msgs,notes,snotes)

bitchx will do pretty much everything that people say it won't and thats why they use mirc, it's just not always easy to find documentation on how to get it to do what you want

munky wrote:set QUERY_NEW_WINDOW ON
set QUERY_NEW_WINDOW_TYPE new_hide swap last double on
set JOIN_NEW_WINDOW ON
set JOIN_NEW_WINDOW_TYPE new_hide swap last double on

you can also create a window and set it so all msgs (or all server msgs) go to that window (/window level msgs,notes,snotes)

bitchx will do pretty much everything that people say it won't and thats why they use mirc, it's just not always easy to find documentation on how to get it to do what you want

The problem with these 'windows' is that they are still text based,
and there is no notification that they have new information to be seen,
so you spend endless cycles checking for new content. Not to mention switching between specific 'windows' is a lot more effort than in a gui client.

Not to mention many shell systems don't provide execution of wserv.. so 'Window' creation doesn't work on them..

strikelight wrote: The problem with these 'windows' is that they are still text based,
and there is no notification that they have new information to be seen,
so you spend endless cycles checking for new content. Not to mention switching between specific 'windows' is a lot more effort than in a gui client.

Not to mention many shell systems don't provide execution of wserv.. so 'Window' creation doesn't work on them..

I'm not sure about BX, because its been a while since I've used it. But in irssi I get this at the bottom of my console:

[22:58] [clunked] [9:#efnet.org(+lnst 180)] [Act: 1,2,4,5,6,9]

It can be customised to show the channel name instead of a number, and hop to each window using its number. And yes, my lag truly does suck

bitchx has this same info:

[20:38][*@netmunky(+bfilsuwxyzo)] [#xxx(+nst)^^] [Act: 3,9,7,5,6,4]

you can switch between them by hitting esc-3, esc-4, or you can /alias ws {window swap $0}
this allows you to /ws 11 (since there is not 11 key)